Or maybe im missing to see is the same author? It went viral a few months ago
wccrawford 45 minutes ago [-]
The new one appears to use real art from real humans, instead of AI art that was fixed.
And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of the other.
jiwidi 37 minutes ago [-]
My mistake for calling it "copy", should have said fork maybe (?)
They are awful close to still require a reference to the original project imo. They are achieving the same output (identify birds and display them in a frame display all hosted in a raspberry pi) with that twist to how to generate the art.
arnemunthekaas 34 minutes ago [-]
Author here: I'll take any feedback and critisism. I haven't based any of my work on his project, but will consider referencing it as a similar one in the readme, as well as e.g. https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame.
jdiff 33 minutes ago [-]
What is "the new one"? The old one used AI, and this one seems to as well.
I agree I would expect a reference. Another difference between this an AvianVisitors is the image sources. AvianVisitors is all AI generated with a consistent prompt, but OP's is using chiefly public domain images with retouching by AI as needed.
jiwidi 43 minutes ago [-]
Yeah agree
I understand OP is continuing the work and improving it as he sees fit, but that in my mind is a fork and should aknowledge the initial work that sparked it.
Maybe i'm wrong tho and this is completely parallel work! Waiting for OPs reply
arnemunthekaas 40 minutes ago [-]
Hi, yeah I'm not basing any of my coding or feature-work on that project. My biggest source of inspiration is actually just a paper poster I have hanging on my wall https://www.axelthorenfeldt.com/news/wwf-verdens-naturfonds-.... I wanted to make a version of that, showing the actual birds in my garden.
Its awful close with no attribution or mention of the original project, which should be the minimum i feel like.
arnemunthekaas 43 minutes ago [-]
Original author here. Fair point, this project was one of my inspirations, but I chose to take a different approach. This uses public domain natural history art and builds on top of BirdNET-Go which is a popular way of self-hosting bird-detections. (This is really a BirdNET-Go companion, as it cannot run without).
That's fair, and I totally get wanting to give it your own spin.
I still think it would be good to acknowledge the original project that sparked the idea, especially now that you've mentioned it was one of the inspirations.
Definitely keep going with yours and evolve it further. That's how good projects grow. But for a healthy open source community, I think we should make a point of crediting the people whose work inspires us. Otherwise, over time, it can discourage people from sharing their projects publicly in the first place.
Duly noted, I'll reference this, as well as other similar projects in the readme. Thanks for the feedback
nsbk 19 minutes ago [-]
Fair! Also, I would love to build this myself as I'm moving out of the city and to the countryside soon.
I'm based off Spain, so I'll be happy to contribute if I find missing Iberian and Mediterranean species, or if some cool feature idea comes up :)
scottndecker 2 minutes ago [-]
Why isn't this a thing on Amazon I can buy?
lvl256 8 minutes ago [-]
What would be cool is if you can put AI to identify individual birds. They all have different calls/voices, though largely indistinguishable to human ears. And you can name them and see when they come for a visit.
firmretention 60 minutes ago [-]
This is such a cool idea and I want to build one. I wish I had this kind of creativity. I can do the hardware/software side, but great ideas elude me.
away0g 29 minutes ago [-]
are you setting yourself up to record ideas as they happen?
misetech 30 minutes ago [-]
I would like to build something which can do the exact opposite. Sounds from illustrations.
fnands 43 minutes ago [-]
Very cool!
I wish E-ink displays were a bit more affordable. The 13 inch one is £229.50.
Does anyone know why they are still so expensive, at least at large sizes?
Yeah, the 4 and 7.3" prices are not bad, the jump to 13 is just large.
That being said, the cost per area goes down, so it is also probably fair.
pjerem 37 minutes ago [-]
You have to distinguish the fake color e-ink that are used in mass consumer products which are actually black&white e-ink plus an LCD layer and are expensive, and the real color e-ink where each micro capsule embeds 3 to 5 different inks of different colors.
The latest are pretty complex devices, very slow to refresh (hence why they are not used in your e-reader) and also very expensive. But the rendering is way much nicer because it’s real ink that is used to render the colors.
eckelhesten 39 minutes ago [-]
Patents and greed in a combination.
RGS1811 26 minutes ago [-]
This is one of the most wonderful uses of AI I've seen in a while.
telesilla 24 minutes ago [-]
I agree. It's such a pity Cats don't recognize images, would make for wonderful CatTV.
meteyor 20 minutes ago [-]
I love this! I have a forest garden with lots of birds. I so want to try this project asap!
practicalsystem 36 minutes ago [-]
oh I need to build this for my mom she would love it!
bronlund 40 minutes ago [-]
Artig! :)
mungoman2 58 minutes ago [-]
Now this is why I come here!
Amazing thing, will replicate.
arnemunthekaas 2 hours ago [-]
Author here. A mic listens to the sounds in my garden, BirdNET-Go (an open-source BirdNET classifier) detects birds by sound, and the e-ink frame draws a real 1800s natural-history illustration of each one as it hears them. Here’s a live web-demo from my garden in Bergen, Norway: https://fugleramme.arnegiacomo.dev
A few things that might be interesting:
- The screen only redraws when the set of birds changes, and dithers the collage down to six colours for the e-ink display.
- Bigger birds sit toward the centre, scaled by real body mass.
- 800+ cutouts across 400+ species, each cut from a real public domain plate. All art is historic and human-made. Coverage is currently best for the Nordics, Britain and Germany (but other parts of the world are in the works).
- Runs fully local on a Raspberry Pi or your homelab (yes, even the classifier runs great on a RPI)
The e-ink panel is optional and it can run web-only in a container against a BirdNET-Go you already have.
Happy to answer any questions!
smeej 27 minutes ago [-]
Do you have your image source available somewhere? I'm not going to build this same thing, but I'd love to add some prints of birds to my shelves and, not knowing much about birds, it would help to have a set of pictures I could look through and go, "Ooh! This one!" and learn about them. It'd be a good jumping on point!
If I were to make one of these as a Christmas present for somebody in Texas, and I wanted to contribute work toward good coverage for the area, how big of a time commitment would that be? It sounds like the kind of hobby work I could get into for a few months.
https://github.com/Twarner491/AvianVisitors
https://theodore.net/projects/AvianVisitors/
Or maybe im missing to see is the same author? It went viral a few months ago
And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of the other.
They are awful close to still require a reference to the original project imo. They are achieving the same output (identify birds and display them in a frame display all hosted in a raspberry pi) with that twist to how to generate the art.
I understand OP is continuing the work and improving it as he sees fit, but that in my mind is a fork and should aknowledge the initial work that sparked it.
Maybe i'm wrong tho and this is completely parallel work! Waiting for OPs reply
I've seen other similar projects pop up like https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame and https://github.com/adamoberley/HABirdDashboard/tree/HABirdDa..., each with their own spin.
I still think it would be good to acknowledge the original project that sparked the idea, especially now that you've mentioned it was one of the inspirations.
Definitely keep going with yours and evolve it further. That's how good projects grow. But for a healthy open source community, I think we should make a point of crediting the people whose work inspires us. Otherwise, over time, it can discourage people from sharing their projects publicly in the first place.
I'm based off Spain, so I'll be happy to contribute if I find missing Iberian and Mediterranean species, or if some cool feature idea comes up :)
I wish E-ink displays were a bit more affordable. The 13 inch one is £229.50. Does anyone know why they are still so expensive, at least at large sizes?
Disclaimer: I am the CEO of Pimoroni :-)
The latest are pretty complex devices, very slow to refresh (hence why they are not used in your e-reader) and also very expensive. But the rendering is way much nicer because it’s real ink that is used to render the colors.
Amazing thing, will replicate.
A few things that might be interesting:
- The screen only redraws when the set of birds changes, and dithers the collage down to six colours for the e-ink display.
- Bigger birds sit toward the centre, scaled by real body mass.
- 800+ cutouts across 400+ species, each cut from a real public domain plate. All art is historic and human-made. Coverage is currently best for the Nordics, Britain and Germany (but other parts of the world are in the works).
- Runs fully local on a Raspberry Pi or your homelab (yes, even the classifier runs great on a RPI)
The e-ink panel is optional and it can run web-only in a container against a BirdNET-Go you already have.
Happy to answer any questions!